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NightOwl@lemmy.ca to Canada@lemmy.ca · 6 months ago

Canada’s ‘New Red Scare’ is profoundly undemocratic

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Canada’s ‘New Red Scare’ is profoundly undemocratic

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NightOwl@lemmy.ca to Canada@lemmy.ca · 6 months ago
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Our society is not without faults. Our domestic and foreign policies are also often flawed. To correct failings, we need people who point them out, however unpopular that may be. We should be enabling a wide framework of public discourse, not seeking to silence people. To date, we haven’t quite reached the level of hysteria of 1950s McCarthyism, but we are perhaps coming close.
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    https://www.nceo.org/articles/employee-ownership-100

    https://www.usworker.coop/en/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation

    @canada

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      I understand that employee-owned companies exist (though I think it’s rather telling that I haven’t heard of any of them) but I thought this was a model for economic policy at the societal level. Those companies all exist within a capitalist economy.

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        The idea is to mandate worker coop structure on all firms.

        It’s not that telling. Without a worker coop mandate, there are collective action problems and market failures. It’s harder for all the workers to cooperate to form a worker coop than an employer to hire up all the workers.

        No society has a full worker coop mandate because the modern arguments for it were published in the 90s. Some countries do mandate some worker board representation and codetermination though
        @canada

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          Mandating it doesn’t seem to be consistent with individual liberty, though.

          Forgive me for being pragmatic about this, but if this was such a good idea and consistent with the interests of the people, you wouldn’t have to mandate it. This is how things would be done.

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            Political democracy also mandates legal non-transferability for voting rights. Would you allow people to sell or transfer their voting rights?

            People prefer democratic firms: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/what-do-americans-want-from-private-government-experimental-evidence-demonstrates-that-americans-want-workplace-democracy/D9C1DBB6F95D9EEA35A34ABF016511F4

            A mandate doesn’t restrict any non-institutionally-described action as labor is de facto non-transferable. It only prevents fraudulently treating de facto responsible persons as legal non-responsible things.

            Are we free when we can sell our freedom or when we can’t even if we want to?

            @canada

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              The only system compatible with full liberty is anarchy. But you stated that economic democracy is libertarian, and then proceeded to call for it to be mandated. Mandates are authoritarian, not libertarian.

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