I assume you’re confusing me with someone else? I did not say I voted for Harris.

People who want to get elected’s job is to get people to want to vote for them. A national party then is supposed to… be a party people want to vote for.

Anyways, the long term plan is mostly, remove money & attack ads from politics, including post political job bullshit. Stop first past the post. Educate people well. Including on the internet and computers (we REALLY need good legislation on it but without people actually understanding it… that’s not easy) Get people to actually care about their own communities, and get involved, including in politics, school boards, etc. (And well, plenty of other things to change, much I have not sat down and formalized a plan for it because there’s not much point in fantasizing a world that’s not trying to destroy itself for profit. Mostly what I can do as a teacher… which also involves a lot of pushing my school to offer things. ) But the DNC is actively against a lot of that. Voting for them will not fix it.

I can say you’re only concerned with short term and willing to lose the long term, while also saying I understand the short term is fucking terrible and it suck’s but it’s only going to get worse if people keep supporting the parties that got us here and are happy to be here. Because people have been saying this shit for like 50 years… and here we are, at it being worse.

The DNC’s literal job is to motivate and energize voters. Blaming the voters and not the DNC is like yelling at a Taco Bell employee about them removing potato’s from the menu as if the fucking cashier has any say what corporate does.

Literally just said I know it’s bad. Not implying it isn’t. I’m saying the DNC has been actively working towards this even being possible for years. Because they only need to run hitler -$50. And they’re happy with that. They would rather lose to Trump than lose any money. And that’s why people stop voting. And that’s why Trump is fucking even possible.

I’m just fucking tired of people defending the DNC. They’re just as big of a part of the problem as republicans.

You’re only worried about the immediate future. Which, yes, is bad. But many refusing to vote for the DNC are doing so because they’re complicit in enabling this bullshit political atmosphere where people are so tired of bullshit politicians who do shit like break a record to “stand up to trump” and then vote to confirm his appointee. So they either give up on voting altogether or are willing to vote for a literal dictator and the DNC’s response is to fight harder against progressives than it does trump. Then in response to losing runs someone whose message is “nothing will fundamentally change.”

So, yeah, if people had completely abandoned the DNC like they should have, maybe we wouldn’t have ever seen it get this bad. But they’re happy with it this bad. They get to pretend they care and keep making money. So yeah, there are plenty of people who refuse to vote for them because they’re happily helping to destroy democracy. (Including suing to remove 3rd parties from ballots, yay!)

So I mean… when you’re a business and you’re looking to build a new factory you look at unemployment in the city and the surrounding cities, along with base pay for similar work in those cities, and many other things. So it’s not like bringing more manufacturing jobs here are gonna be built directly next to existing factories and only offer 3rd shifts. I agree there are plenty of other things we need but like, it at least isn’t something bad for us?

I mean… idk I don’t expect 80% of the country to do one single type of job? That’s very silly? But I can see people think we should have less reliance other countries, while not necessarily wanting to do that themselves, but also 25% of the country is still… a lot of fucking people.

But yes, people do treat workers like shit in this country a lot which honestly baffles me to see people cannot understand people working are still people.

I… what? Like… yeah… most jobs still fucking suck. we need a lot of improvements. I never said the jobs were perfect, pay was perfect, unions were perfect, or anything. Just that… yeah there are jobs that exist that people would agree are important even if they themselves do not wish to do them, and 20-25% of the country being willing to do them (even if half of those aren’t real) is still like 20 million people getting jobs.

Okay and in Pathfinder you have Ustalav where you could play a horror campaign filled with vampires and werewolves, you’ve got Tian Xia for weeb shit, you’ve got pirate themed adventures like skull and shackles, and plenty more or hell you have Starfinder for space fantasy (soon to be interchangeable with 2e). I know DnD has settings that are different as well. Complaining about setting is very whatever, but also of course people go to Tolkien fantasy it’s what everyone for sure knows. But also pathfinder 2e and DnD 5e are both mechanically similar. DCC does at least offer a different type of gameplay, a lot less power crazy and honestly felt more like mausritter to me than DnD.

But yes, you could play plenty of other games. I’m not saying don’t play those. I’m just saying calling DCC the same thing as 5e is just rude, the same way calling caccio e Pepe the same thing as mac n cheese would probably get you stabbed by Italians. (edit: lol autocorrect cacciatore)

Idk, I run a game club for kids and most just wanna fight things and play what they see on stranger things and thus other systems don’t matter or interest them because they would have to learn how a d10 system or clocks or etc work. They also all know what fuckin generic Tolkien fantasy is, so you don’t have to explain what a geist is or etc. something like DCC at least plays similar enough and has a similar theme while still offering different enough gameplay to have some kids realize they like shit that isn’t just DND, or allowing the kids bored of 5e something a little different.

That’s… you realize not everyone only wants jobs to exist because they want the job themselves…. Right?

Like I’m pretty sure everyone would agree we need garbage trucks and janitors but boy do I have a surprise for you about how many would take those jobs.

Really we need public works projects, like nationalizing the internet and paying to expand access to it instead of allowing ISPs to gouge the fuck out of everyone for years. But I mean, manufacturing also probably would not be bad so we can be less reliant on people we like to try and piss off.

No we do pay that much. My job apparently pays $9000 a year for me to have health insurance, and I still have to pay $170 a month for it. Plus deductibles, co-pays, and other bullshit.

Anyways, how much are yall even taxed that’s “too much”?

No, the DNC is why we have trump. It’s on them.

Obama wasn’t perfect at all, but his platform was at least change and progress. While he was originally against gay marriage he did listen to the public and change for re-election. If the DNC listened to the public instead of fighting against progress that would be great. But like… Biden was the throw away to conservatives for Obama’s VP to “balance out” Obama being progressive….And now he was their best idea on what to do for a better future? It’s pathetic, and demonstrates the above.

No one is trying to say Biden was worse than trump. They’re saying the DNC is what even allowed trump to exist, by being greedy fucks who care more about their handlers than the American people and running the worst candidates they can. “Nothing will fundamentally change” is the dumbest, most “fuck you don’t bother to vote for me” fucking campaign I’ve ever heard.

Idk the math all seemed ehh (like going evasion was 1000% better than going tanky in that it was cheaper and you’ll take less damage) the whole duality dice stuff seemed… ehh. It just came off as trying to change just to say it was different. Idk.

Yeah fuck people who help dems win local elections and ballot measures! Those things aren’t real! Everyone knows the house and senate don’t matter! And neither do state legislatures! Fuck those stupid things that don’t affect anyone, it’s all about voting for the guy you think is going to win, not the one you want! Or, idk whatever you dems go on about.

Let’s keep attacking progressive voter base like the DNC wants! Let’s keep alienating them more! It will be a good idea THIS time! It worked so well that’s why 2016 was our best year! Way better than 2008 when we didn’t actively attack them! If we don’t ensure politics is voting against the one you hate most how will we keep all those non-voters at home, keep money in politics, and keep those oligarchs happy!

is that any good now? Know it’s probably changed a lot since the initial latest was released but that initial release looked…. Bad.

I mean DCC & 5e are very different.

Sorry, I tried googling around for the article but there’s so much with that shit that I cannot find it anymore, sorry. Lot of 2021 articles on holding back memo on Mueller report which was I guess a bigger article than a memo that alluded to waiting to persecute him that came out after he already won the election. Whole post got deleted from here, so comment history even did not help.

But here is what I was talking about with research on progressives voting (note they’re called progressive left here): https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/11/09/political-engagement-among-typology-groups/

Boy I need to start shitposting anything censored here to watch yall cry more over people censoring stuff so OCR doesn’t instantly remove it. “Oh my god they made it so the robot doesn’t remove it but the humans can still read it IM SO MAD BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SAY BAD WORDS CUZ WE ARE COOL ADULTS.”

I don’t have it saved on here anymore because the whole post got deleted.

If I have time later maybe I’ll try and find the article it was on an internal memo or email or something, but Trump plus memo or email is gonna take a lot of searching to find the correct article now.

So maybe when I have time I can try and find that and the studies on progressives voting but I have a busy week and will almost definitely forget to be honest.

I would call pushing back persecution until it is too late so he can run so Biden can say “only I can stop him” and run would be helping Trump a whole lot more than saying the DNC should strive to be a party people want to vote for, but you do you I guess.

What do you want me to say to him? Sorry dems were busy holding back from sentencing Trump so they could run against him? Sorry Biden decided he had to be the nominee after saying he wouldn’t be? Sorry we waited until after primaries to decide he was a horrible choice and then went with someone who decided “I’m gonna do exactly what he was doing”?

Like do you think I want Trump? Because I am criticising the DNC? I am criticising the DNC because they’re the ones fucking up.