The question is easier to answer with any sympathy and understanding when you ask any given individual if they’re personally planning a jailbreak on behalf of this person. At least that seems to be the calculus for what “tolerate” means here.

There’s little room for parties not directly involved to work within the system and if the independence of the judiciary is under suspicion then “fight and die” is literally the prospect people would have to face to reasonably do anything about this and that’s a pretty high bar, one which I doubt many would-be critics of the “fat, lazy cowards” would be willing clear themselves.

That was a pretty great-ass fire.

Stream of consciousness really, for the most part tongue in cheek. I think despite it’s verbosity, it’s a good explanation of why the term is awkward once you give it more than a second’s thought. But hey language is gonna language, people will probably take it as it’s meant despite all that.

I always thought motherfucker was a weird exclamation. At least right now, it doesn’t fit with modern concepts of humiliating put downs because things like “I fucked your mum” are commonly understood phrases of contempt and ways to embarrass or domineer someone yet it creates the uncomfortable paradox of the person calling someone a motherfucker inadvertently placing their opponent in a rhetorical position of dominance and power over at least someone whose mother they have fucked, and quite possibly even the mother of the person calling them a mother fucker if they’re happy to turn the tables and make that claim. Whether the term might once not have had those confusing connotations before common tropes around fucking of people’s mothers being a dominance thing someone might take a chauvinistic pride in; within current culture, it definitely does.

Then you have the fact that statistically, quite a lot of normal people are going to be motherfuckers including everyone’s Dad and especially the father of the person calling someone a motherfucker, so it’s offensive impact is up against the heavily diluting effect of the sheer banality of the status of motherfucker. It’s almost like saying “oxygen breather” and expecting to offend.

Then it gets so contextually muddied by the fact that the word has become semantically very flexible. I think I’ve even heard it used as a term of endearment before, at the very least it can sometimes be a stand in for just “people”, as in “some motherfuckers like to smoke” wherein such cases it’s fairly neutral in affect or at least only mildly negative. It’s also used just as an exclamation of surprise or anger with a situation, this is actually where I most find myself using it. It’s sometimes used with regard to objects, rather than people with which one is frustrated, a usage that I guess isn’t so far removed from the original offensive intent but still broadens the scope somewhat. This flexibility isn’t necessarily bad, after all “fuck” is extremely flexible and people will infer intent from context pretty effectively but again it does seem to me to sort of dilute it’s antagonistic and offensive qualities by becoming mundane.

I guess the term works quite well because it’s rather graphic. It doesn’t just require the word itself to be arbitrarily considered offensive like “fuck” does, but instead produces mental imagery that’s shocking and explicit, maybe that’s how it’s managed to hang around so long despite semantic ambiguity and possible rhetorical backfiring but for me, I still think it’s a weird term. It’s so ambiguous, and so tied up with weird ideas around propriety and women that make it feel strange in contexts where someone wants to be threatening and vulgar. It feels like a strangely dandy and out of place anachronism in the sort of ‘street’ context that I think people want to evoke when they use it. Feels like something I might expect people to say right before slapping each other with gloves. Are they upset with the person’s habit of fucking mother’s because it implies they’re a philanderer? Would that be offensive to them? Or is it the mother they’re supposed to have fucked who’s improper? A “slut” for allowing the mother fucker to fuck them? If so, why is the issuer of the term directing their distaste at the mother fucker and not mother whom they fucked? Are they suggesting the person so-called, fucked their own mother? I guess that could make sense, a bit weird but certainly insulting, yet I’ve really never heard that that was the intended idea.

This suddenly triggered a memory of one specific art attack but I’ve been scouring YouTube and so far haven’t had much luck finding it. I haven’t seen all that’s available but I’m getting a bit sick of it despite my desire to still see it again. Maybe someone here remembers it.

• I would have watched it in the 90s I think sometimes between 94-96. But I can’t say for sure it wasn’t a rerun from an earlier period
• The particular art attack was a night scene of traffic on what I think was a wet road with a truck or lorry, the perspective is of the lorry heading towards the viewer, though a little bit profile, not directly head on
• I think it was drawn on black paper
• It may have been done with white and yellow chalk, certainly I remember the colours white and yellow being used
• It was demonstrating ideas around being able to hint at the impression of objects at night without drawing the full object, only the outline of parts of it that would be illuminated by light sources which were headlights and smaller lights attached to the sides and corners of the lorry
• It involved doing something kind of like how a little kid would draw a sun with a crude circle and rays but then some quite clever technique was employed to smudge those little suns and their rays in very straight lines used to trace the hint of outlines of traffic
• It was finally finished off with some kind reflection on the road surface, don’t recall how he did it

I’ve going through ep after ep, nowhere to be found. The wiki for art attack has only two mentions of “night” and it’s neither of the two mentioned episodes, there’s only one mention of “traffic” and it’s in regards to using traffic cones. There’s a mention of “truck” but that wasn’t it either, I checked. There’s no mention of “lorry”. Couldn’t find anything to do with “wet roads” either. Driving me nuts.

If everyone talks like this all the time and it influences how AI models produce text outputs, then those models are basically getting it right and would be indistinguishable from normal people since that’s how all people will speak.

Is that either way or either way?

This instantly put the Resident Evil 4 “what are you buyin’” guy’s voice in mind?

Ironically, either of them depending on the situation. Sometimes I even express the concept that I am indifferent to the choice between two things or happy with both of them by saying “ee-ther, eye-ther”

Once upon a slurp slurp slurp

Woah, he looks like a normal human being, why on earth did he put so much effort to choose to look like he does now?!?

“butthole mouth” – can’t unsee.

Those are also a good thing to find in a page source to use with yt-dlp if you want to rip a video from a page, it’s like the playlist for DASH so you download all the pieces of a video and it’s audio and they get put together as one thing instead of getting little silent 5s videos that you have download one by one and also find the audio for them separately.

They might end up making a pretty crappy loaf of bread but it’s a bit much to imply they’ll become a bad person because of this.

Maybe he came back really quite some time ago and died in obscurity trying desperately the whole time to persuade everyone he was a big deal and ever since people are still waiting around wondering "when’s this second coming happening?’ having no idea they missed it and it was pretty lame.

Yeh I think the phrase “shit your pants” definitely implies like the same account of piop that you would have dumped in the toilet in a deliberate manner, except in your pants and most likely accidentally.

I mean if you have any choice in the matter it’s obviously time to go home.

I don’t have kids and I don’t know anything about sports. If you continue reading after those disclosures, I’ll offer a perspective anyway, since you put this out to the internet for comment.

There isn’t really a way you could have put this to your son that would be taken well, it’s evidently sensitive for him and despite your intentions it’ll feel like a tragic monent. It’s just hard news. Whether it’s right to break that to him, well I’m not sure but I think maybe you’re putting too much emphasis on this one interaction like it was your one shot and there was a definitive right it wrong way to do it. What will matter most is more likely to be what you do generally moving forward. You may have your doubts about his ability in his chosen path and perhaps they’re well founded but you can still encourage him and be rooting for him whilst gently suggesting having backup options in times when he appears uncertain. If you consistently do all you can to help in whatever way you can with whatever choices he makes, then if they don’t work out and he has to abandon that dream, he’ll at least know you supported him all throughout despite your concern and that should count for a lot. If somehow he ends up unexpectedly rocketing to success in football he’ll also remember you’d been there all along encouraging and assisting. It’s ok to counsel against putting his eggs all in one basket, but just don’t push it, you must respect his choice whatever it ends up being and he there to help pick up the pieces if those choices don’t make him happy.

Much like with football fans, you support your team by just showing up to every match and cheering on. Perhaps he didn’t like the uncomfortable dose of reality today but so long as you are consistently a positive and helpful force he’ll hopefully come to appreciate what you’ve been trying to do for him.

Senescence maybe?

It’s bad that this scam is running of course but, I have to say this particular scam has almost a nostalgic quality to it. It reminds me of the type of trickery that old school malware back in the day used to rely on to get on to people’s computers. It’s kind of quaint how unsophisticated it is and how much active work it requires of the victim to successfully infect them.