Tesla stock price has always been valued on “Next Big Thing”. Its robotaxi/fsd is falling flat so far. But robotics is new NBT. With 85% of robots sold in China, and massive manufacturing market share that is still growing, future robot sales will still take place there, and Chinese companies are already well ahead in humanoid and other robotics.
Also their gimmick, robot soccer and robot olympics events, even if not incredibly impressive, is a mass student training program in robotics future that just doesn’t exist in the west. China’s future robot dominance is completely assured because they care about making it happen. Tesla has 0 chance of success, and for a market, requires giving Tesla US monopoly on overpriced robots.
Wait is this really Telegraph article? No raging sinophobia in every paragraph and even touching grass?
Looks like we’re entering the acceptance stages of grief here.
Thanks for the archive version. Good read.
“Their cost and the quality of their vehicles is far superior to what I see in the West,” Farley warned in July.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKa8mVOe5so Two years ago… have they really improved over Western cars since then?
Two years of progress in China is like two decades of progress in the west.
I don’t think linking a “China watcher” that exclusively makes videos on how China is going to collapse any minute now going back years is good evidencd.
Maybe, but there’s plenty of clips in the video of the cars catching on fire, which seem like evidence of something…
Kinda? You can find videos of any car catching on fire, what matters is how they compare at a statistical level with their competition to see if they are doing better or worse, not evidence that at minimum failure rates are nonzero. I truly don’t trust China Watchers to produce anything meaningful or useful.
Define “plenty.” What’s the fire rate compared to the total number of BYD cars in existance? How does that compare to Tesla? How’s the historical trend, is it going up or down? Are they equally likely to catch fire across the board or are there problematic models or series? Different countries have different automotive regulations and therefore have slightly different cars even if they’re the same model, are the fire rates different by country? Are domestic Chinese BYDs more likely to catch fire than cars exported to, say, other Asian countries, Latin America, or Africa?
This is why you don’t draw conclusions from how many YouTube videos you can find. When there are billions of any product there will inevitably be tons of videos of it going wrong which doesn’t inherently tell you whether it’s actually likely to happen or not. If that was an acceptable statistical analysis method, then I can binge watch the hundreds of thousands of aviation accident videos and conclude that literally all planes do is crash.
