My theory is that Covid killed everyone and this is purgatory. (TikTok screencap)

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    The world has always been crazy. Just more adults are becoming aware of it and able to see it all the time, every day.

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    Everything that’s happened in the since around 1900 is an extreme outlier in the history of humanity. Nothing’s been normal.

  • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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    remember when redditors thought 2016 was the worst year in history because some celebrities had died?

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        Yeah, I still feel like that year is when things really went off the rails in the US. I lost a lot of friends and family to the cult, and I’m starting to think they’re never coming back. A chasm has formed in America and it’s only getting wider.

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      Pfft those idiots didn’t have the foresight to see that things were going to get worse. What a bunch of dingalings.

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    September 11th, 2001 was a real inflection point for the US. We, collectively decided that civil rights aren’t as important as revenge.

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      sept 11 was the first time the republicans had the chance to seize the opportunity to put america on track for its fascist fourth reichdom fantasy.

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    2017-2021 was Trump, so I think it started earlier. Was it maybe more like US election season 2016 as the start of it? It’s hard to pinpoint. But yes. The old US seems gone now-- Our government went from covertly corrupt to very openly so. We’re becoming Russia, and its hard to imagine ever rolling it back to who we once were.

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    People who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The USA has been in a constant power struggle between monied interests and liberty since the founding days. The same party has been in control of China since before Mao was starving millions of people. A lot of european countries are literally still monarchies.

    This is the normal.

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    🎶It’s get.ting bet.ter all the ti-i-ime

    I have to admit. it’s getting bet.ter

    A little bet.ter all the time (can’t get noo worse)🎶

    I’ve seen this argument so many time… It’s not going downhill, we are just getting older, we understand the problems of the world better, we are more informed, we watch the news and we start to have that nostalgia feeling that it was better before. It was not ! The world is getting better for so many metrics, sure there are issues, there always has been, it’s not perfect. Sure there are localized places where it’s temporarily getting worse ( the US might currently be living through a rough time, but it will pass).

    Overall, it’s getting better all the time. We are currently living the best time in history so far. Millions of new stuff to discover, infinite access to the cumulated knowledge of mankind. More democratic country than ever, famine is getting down overall, health is getting better too. Poverty is decreasing too.

    I’m not saying we shouldn’t do anything to try and make it even better, we definitely should do everything we can, there is still a lot to do to make it the best world possible. But please stop with this constant whining about the past. It was not better, you simply didn’t know any better in the past, and your memory of the past is tainted because your brains actively choose to erase bad stuff and only remember good stuff (this is a real human brain unconscious behaviour, look it up).

    • We’re running out of water for agriculture. The zoomers may be middle aged, and the alphas, adults, when the climate crisis fully catches up with us. And if the human species is lucky, it’ll happen first in the US or Russia or one of the old-guard powers, and the new order can use their renewable energy surplus to create new desalinization technology.

      But current estimates (by those few climatologists willing to say other than it’s going to get very bad. ) estimate the upper limit of the sustainability projections are a global population of about a billion people, if the international community chose to act today on all fronts. (Obviously that’s not happening in the US, or in autocratic regimes, who imagine – falsely – they can create a self-sustaining colony on Mars – we’re a century or more from that).

      That is a best case scenario unless we discover some miracle technology.

      All other scenarios get worse than that, from a population in the hundreds of millions to human extinction. There is a ray of hope near the bottom, since Homo Erectus had at least one period of tens of thousands of years with a population under 10K before they would populate the world again, until they were out-competed by other hominids (e.g. us. Homo Sapiens). So we might have a tiny society that survives for an eon, but don’t expect any culture (from wet burritos to Beethoven’s Fifth to the 道德經) to survive. And a fuckton of science will have to be rediscovered.

      So seriously bad shit for all of Human society is, at this point, for all intents and purposes, inevitable.

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    2000

    Just been a whipsaw shitshow since.

    2000 is when Bush got elected and we openly courted the fringe, the uneducated, and religious right. Openly chose obstinacy and willful ignorance in an unqualified nepo-president who got the job because of daddy. 9/11 happened and the standard became selling shitty policy to Americans by labeling it something patriotic. The tax breaks came fast and hard, more unilateral decision making by the President. We can easily argue there were a lot of historic actions that led up to this from Gingrich to Nixon to Reagan, but Bush and the RNC are the one that really set things in motion to get us to trump. The Tea Partiers, Pailin, the official voice of the Right used openly to demonize the left and people like McConnell or Bohner actively sabotaging bipartisanship and undermining the presidency.

    Yeah, 2000 for sure.

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    Ive lived through a few of these already.

    2020 is when everything changed.

    2016 is when everything chagned.

    2012 is when everything changed.

    2008 is when everything changed.

    2001 is when everything changed.

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      In a way it’s fair to say that every moment changes every moment that happens after. The entire global economy is still reeling from Reaganomics ffs.

      I lived through all these. 2001 and 2008 were horrible, but sort of felt like a normal kind of horrible. Recessions and terrorism were things I’d seen before. It was only the scale that made those anomalous.

      From my (American) perspective 2016 was when shit started getting very weird. We were relatively stable, relatively prosperous, foreign wars were tapering off… And half the country decided that a game show host was her best bet going forward.

      Then it started snowballing… Bill Cosby’s a rapist, there’s a global pandemic, Kanye put out a pro-Hitler song, Pete Davidson is a sex symbol that no starlet in Hollywood can resist, The secretary of health had his brain eaten by worms, everything you own or use became a subscription service, The fear Factor guy became a political king maker, The first lady has a crypto scam that everyone’s kind of okay with, we created AI but it’s only good for spam and rule 34 tweets, we decided political corruption isn’t a crime if you brag about it, America’s war machine is being turned on its cities… Oh and the US is building full on concentration camps.

      It’s a very strange time even compared to occupy, The tea party, or Bush riding out 9/11 Reading a children’s book in an elementary school.

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    Trump was president in 2019 and I remember him cutting massive amounts of food aid (means on wheels) for elderly people during Christmas time. It was some serious Scrooge shit, except he didn’t get three ghosts to make him mend his ways.

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    Its actually that between 1991 and 2001 that we merely had a full decade of relative stability in world events. Crazy shit stopped happening for a while and we have collectively imparted that things used to be “normal” on people born after 2001 but they’ve interpreted their own childhoods as the normal years.

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      I see this said about the 90s all the time but really this is not true. In the 90s there was (not an exhaustive list)

      • First Gulf War
      • Yugoslavia war
      • Rwandan Genocide
      • Oklahoma City Bombing
      • Columbine Massacre
      • Los Angeles Riots
      • The Fall Of USSR (while on one hand a good thing it also cause so much economic decline, hunger, and excess mortality in the millions to many former bloc countries)
      • Somalian War
      • US 1990 recession
      • 1997 Asian Financial crisis
      • Dot com bubble
      • Hurricane Andrew
      • 1999 İzmit earthquake

      It’s very common when asking any person what was the best period of time for the world for their response to be a period of time their formative years were.

      The reality is history is full of horrid horrid things and nostalgia is a follie that’ll trick your mind.