• carpoftruth [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    it’s incredible to me that it’s been 20+ years since the global war on terror was popular, the idea of the US being the baddies in iraq/afghanistan/libya is generally accepted, and there’s also general acceptance among libertarian dweebs that the US does a lot of propaganda, and yet there’s still such a reluctance to believe that the US is wrong on China as well.

    deeply unserious analysis

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      I’ve thought a lot about this over the years. Much like communism and socialism. Makes you go hmmm.

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      is generally accepted

      Plausible deniability remains the people’s bread and butter; bringing up that the government killed over a million people in Afghanistan (mostly civilians), the lib I was talking to said that okay, there was some bad in the beginning but ultimately it was for the best; just for perspective, the Taliban never killed even a tenth (twentieth?) of the people we did. Some bad. Iraq? But…but…it was being run by a dictator. Libya? But…but…it was being run by a dictator.

      Sweet, sweet plausible deniability, which they would never tolerate being used against us by the way. We’re allowed to play fast and loose with war crimes and mass murder but heaven forbid our victims retaliate and use equally flimsy excuses (America is being run by an oligarchy! We have to save the American people!).

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    Libs are wild in that they have absolutely zero principles.

    One day they’ll lie about a genocide in China. The next they will support it and say it’s actually great because Trump is making them mad and saying good stuff about China is viewed as opposing Trump to them.

    They really heavily follow “enemy of my enemy is my friend”. If you could convince them Trump hates dprk then they would start spreading pro-dprk content. They’re that fickle.